Comments on: Readers Day – Anti-smoking campaigns encourage teen use http://armannd.com/the-real-results-of-the-anti-smoking-campaigns.html/ Things that matter Tue, 22 May 2012 15:16:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: guesthttp://armannd.com/the-real-results-of-the-anti-smoking-campaigns.html/comment-page-1/#comment-76154 guest Sun, 11 Mar 2012 18:05:00 +0000 http://www.armannd.com/the-real-results-of-the-anti-smoking-campaigns.html#comment-76154 An important factor is what kind of advertising is used.  If it's preachy, it won't be effective.  Testimonials, facts, and ads about the crookedness of tobacco companies seem to work... http://www.k4health.org/system/files/youthMedia.pdf An important factor is what kind of advertising is used.  If it’s preachy, it won’t be effective.  Testimonials, facts, and ads about the crookedness of tobacco companies seem to work… http://www.k4health.org/system/files/youthMedia.pdf

]]> By: Titus-Armandhttp://armannd.com/the-real-results-of-the-anti-smoking-campaigns.html/comment-page-1/#comment-206 Titus-Armand Fri, 03 Aug 2007 19:22:35 +0000 http://www.armannd.com/the-real-results-of-the-anti-smoking-campaigns.html#comment-206 Erin, I'm not sure that higher taxation would lower the consumption rate... as you said, it would turn smoking into a luxury habit, and luxury habits create a very high want aura around them.Even if they are expensive, people will still buy them. And in order to be able to do that, some will be forced to make sacrifices in their lives or resort to other activities (criminal sometimes) that will help them get what they want.Of course that a higher taxation would have some positive results, but it may also have other negative outcomes. The Noble Experiment that V. Neely brought into the discussion could be an example in this direction (it slightly lowered the alcohol consumption, but it increased violent crimes, smuggling, etc).I think we should analyse the causes of the smoking desire and move the fight there. Erin, I’m not sure that higher taxation would lower the consumption rate… as you said, it would turn smoking into a luxury habit, and luxury habits create a very high want aura around them.

Even if they are expensive, people will still buy them. And in order to be able to do that, some will be forced to make sacrifices in their lives or resort to other activities (criminal sometimes) that will help them get what they want.

Of course that a higher taxation would have some positive results, but it may also have other negative outcomes. The Noble Experiment that V. Neely brought into the discussion could be an example in this direction (it slightly lowered the alcohol consumption, but it increased violent crimes, smuggling, etc).

I think we should analyse the causes of the smoking desire and move the fight there.

]]> By: Titus-Armandhttp://armannd.com/the-real-results-of-the-anti-smoking-campaigns.html/comment-page-1/#comment-54098 Titus-Armand Fri, 03 Aug 2007 16:22:00 +0000 http://www.armannd.com/the-real-results-of-the-anti-smoking-campaigns.html#comment-54098 Erin, I'm not sure that higher taxation would lower the consumption rate... as you said, it would turn smoking into a luxury habit, and luxury habits create a very high want aura around them.Even if they are expensive, people will still buy them. And in order to be able to do that, some will be forced to make sacrifices in their lives or resort to other activities (criminal sometimes) that will help them get what they want.Of course that a higher taxation would have some positive results, but it may also have other negative outcomes. The Noble Experiment that V. Neely brought into the discussion could be an example in this direction (it slightly lowered the alcohol consumption, but it increased violent crimes, smuggling, etc).I think we should analyse the causes of the smoking desire and move the fight there. Erin, I’m not sure that higher taxation would lower the consumption rate… as you said, it would turn smoking into a luxury habit, and luxury habits create a very high want aura around them.

Even if they are expensive, people will still buy them. And in order to be able to do that, some will be forced to make sacrifices in their lives or resort to other activities (criminal sometimes) that will help them get what they want.

Of course that a higher taxation would have some positive results, but it may also have other negative outcomes. The Noble Experiment that V. Neely brought into the discussion could be an example in this direction (it slightly lowered the alcohol consumption, but it increased violent crimes, smuggling, etc).

I think we should analyse the causes of the smoking desire and move the fight there.

]]> By: Erinhttp://armannd.com/the-real-results-of-the-anti-smoking-campaigns.html/comment-page-1/#comment-203 Erin Fri, 03 Aug 2007 02:41:45 +0000 http://www.armannd.com/the-real-results-of-the-anti-smoking-campaigns.html#comment-203 Taxation! Seriously, make things expensive enough and they will become undesirable. Maybe a pack or two would be a luxury, but a pack a day habit would get pretty expensive for any kid, or adult for that matter. Taxation! Seriously, make things expensive enough and they will become undesirable. Maybe a pack or two would be a luxury, but a pack a day habit would get pretty expensive for any kid, or adult for that matter.

]]> By: Erinhttp://armannd.com/the-real-results-of-the-anti-smoking-campaigns.html/comment-page-1/#comment-54097 Erin Fri, 03 Aug 2007 02:41:00 +0000 http://www.armannd.com/the-real-results-of-the-anti-smoking-campaigns.html#comment-54097 Taxation! Seriously, make things expensive enough and they will become undesirable. Maybe a pack or two would be a luxury, but a pack a day habit would get pretty expensive for any kid, or adult for that matter. Taxation! Seriously, make things expensive enough and they will become undesirable. Maybe a pack or two would be a luxury, but a pack a day habit would get pretty expensive for any kid, or adult for that matter.

]]> By: Titus-Armandhttp://armannd.com/the-real-results-of-the-anti-smoking-campaigns.html/comment-page-1/#comment-196 Titus-Armand Thu, 02 Aug 2007 19:43:40 +0000 http://www.armannd.com/the-real-results-of-the-anti-smoking-campaigns.html#comment-196 It's indeed kinda like the noble experiment. The interesting part is that it also works the other way around. Make something too available and common and it won't create (so much) attraction. :) It’s indeed kinda like the noble experiment.
The interesting part is that it also works the other way around. Make something too available and common and it won’t create (so much) attraction. :)

]]> By: Titus-Armandhttp://armannd.com/the-real-results-of-the-anti-smoking-campaigns.html/comment-page-1/#comment-54096 Titus-Armand Thu, 02 Aug 2007 16:43:00 +0000 http://www.armannd.com/the-real-results-of-the-anti-smoking-campaigns.html#comment-54096 It's indeed kinda like the noble experiment. The interesting part is that it also works the other way around. Make something too available and common and it won't create (so much) attraction. :) It’s indeed kinda like the noble experiment.
The interesting part is that it also works the other way around. Make something too available and common and it won’t create (so much) attraction. :)

]]> By: V. Neelyhttp://armannd.com/the-real-results-of-the-anti-smoking-campaigns.html/comment-page-1/#comment-194 V. Neely Tue, 31 Jul 2007 18:45:34 +0000 http://www.armannd.com/the-real-results-of-the-anti-smoking-campaigns.html#comment-194 Hmmm, kind of like the "noble experiment"... make something forbidden, and all of a sudden it's very, very attractive. :)Yeah, one way or another, for better or worse, the "no smoking" ads make you think about smoking... it's like telling someone not to think of a tree. It makes smoking seem even more important. I can easily see why they actually encourage teens to start smoking. Hmmm, kind of like the “noble experiment”… make something forbidden, and all of a sudden it’s very, very attractive. :)

Yeah, one way or another, for better or worse, the “no smoking” ads make you think about smoking… it’s like telling someone not to think of a tree. It makes smoking seem even more important. I can easily see why they actually encourage teens to start smoking.

]]> By: V. Neelyhttp://armannd.com/the-real-results-of-the-anti-smoking-campaigns.html/comment-page-1/#comment-54095 V. Neely Tue, 31 Jul 2007 18:45:00 +0000 http://www.armannd.com/the-real-results-of-the-anti-smoking-campaigns.html#comment-54095 Hmmm, kind of like the "noble experiment"... make something forbidden, and all of a sudden it's very, very attractive. :)Yeah, one way or another, for better or worse, the "no smoking" ads make you think about smoking... it's like telling someone not to think of a tree. It makes smoking seem even more important. I can easily see why they actually encourage teens to start smoking. Hmmm, kind of like the “noble experiment”… make something forbidden, and all of a sudden it’s very, very attractive. :)

Yeah, one way or another, for better or worse, the “no smoking” ads make you think about smoking… it’s like telling someone not to think of a tree. It makes smoking seem even more important. I can easily see why they actually encourage teens to start smoking.

]]> By: Titus-Armandhttp://armannd.com/the-real-results-of-the-anti-smoking-campaigns.html/comment-page-1/#comment-191 Titus-Armand Mon, 30 Jul 2007 22:42:28 +0000 http://www.armannd.com/the-real-results-of-the-anti-smoking-campaigns.html#comment-191 You make a few good points there. After reading your answer, I got a few ideas. :)Zero anti-smoking ads are more efficient than 3, 6, 30, or 100 anti-smoking ads (and don't waste any money). The reasons is simple. If exposed to the term "don't start smoking" repeatedly, a teenager is way more vulnerable to start smoking. The explanation: "don't <strong>start smoking</strong>" (this line may vary); the command to start smoking is in there, and it is picked up by his psyche. And if the other factors that contribute to the pleasure and coolness of smoking are untouched, the anti-smoking campaign adds to the pleasure and excitement of smoking.The reason why teens pick up smoking is because the grownups smoke, and grownups seem cool to them.Ads won't work because there are many HUGE companies that have big interests in this market and they won't let some "anti" campaign affect their business.I believe that if the grownup smokers would show less pleasure ("it makes me forget my problems", "it's relaxing", etc) from their vice, teens won't be so eager to pick it up. You make a few good points there. After reading your answer, I got a few ideas. :)

Zero anti-smoking ads are more efficient than 3, 6, 30, or 100 anti-smoking ads (and don’t waste any money). The reasons is simple. If exposed to the term “don’t start smoking” repeatedly, a teenager is way more vulnerable to start smoking. The explanation: “don’t start smoking” (this line may vary); the command to start smoking is in there, and it is picked up by his psyche. And if the other factors that contribute to the pleasure and coolness of smoking are untouched, the anti-smoking campaign adds to the pleasure and excitement of smoking.

The reason why teens pick up smoking is because the grownups smoke, and grownups seem cool to them.

Ads won’t work because there are many HUGE companies that have big interests in this market and they won’t let some “anti” campaign affect their business.

I believe that if the grownup smokers would show less pleasure (“it makes me forget my problems”, “it’s relaxing”, etc) from their vice, teens won’t be so eager to pick it up.

]]> By: Titus-Armandhttp://armannd.com/the-real-results-of-the-anti-smoking-campaigns.html/comment-page-1/#comment-54094 Titus-Armand Mon, 30 Jul 2007 19:42:00 +0000 http://www.armannd.com/the-real-results-of-the-anti-smoking-campaigns.html#comment-54094 You make a few good points there. After reading your answer, I got a few ideas. :)Zero anti-smoking ads are more efficient than 3, 6, 30, or 100 anti-smoking ads (and don't waste any money). The reasons is simple. If exposed to the term "don't start smoking" repeatedly, a teenager is way more vulnerable to start smoking. The explanation: "don't <strong>start smoking</strong>" (this line may vary); the command to start smoking is in there, and it is picked up by his psyche. And if the other factors that contribute to the pleasure and coolness of smoking are untouched, the anti-smoking campaign adds to the pleasure and excitement of smoking.The reason why teens pick up smoking is because the grownups smoke, and grownups seem cool to them.Ads won't work because there are many HUGE companies that have big interests in this market and they won't let some "anti" campaign affect their business.I believe that if the grownup smokers would show less pleasure ("it makes me forget my problems", "it's relaxing", etc) from their vice, teens won't be so eager to pick it up. You make a few good points there. After reading your answer, I got a few ideas. :)

Zero anti-smoking ads are more efficient than 3, 6, 30, or 100 anti-smoking ads (and don’t waste any money). The reasons is simple. If exposed to the term “don’t start smoking” repeatedly, a teenager is way more vulnerable to start smoking. The explanation: “don’t start smoking” (this line may vary); the command to start smoking is in there, and it is picked up by his psyche. And if the other factors that contribute to the pleasure and coolness of smoking are untouched, the anti-smoking campaign adds to the pleasure and excitement of smoking.

The reason why teens pick up smoking is because the grownups smoke, and grownups seem cool to them.

Ads won’t work because there are many HUGE companies that have big interests in this market and they won’t let some “anti” campaign affect their business.

I believe that if the grownup smokers would show less pleasure (“it makes me forget my problems”, “it’s relaxing”, etc) from their vice, teens won’t be so eager to pick it up.

]]> By: V. Neelyhttp://armannd.com/the-real-results-of-the-anti-smoking-campaigns.html/comment-page-1/#comment-190 V. Neely Mon, 30 Jul 2007 00:25:07 +0000 http://www.armannd.com/the-real-results-of-the-anti-smoking-campaigns.html#comment-190 Distribute ads that promote smoking? ;) Or maybe instead of attacking smoking from legal and health standpoint, just make it look as unattractive and uncool as possible:"Smoking turns your teeth yellow.""You smoke? You stink."Personally, I don't think ads are going to make much difference one way or another with teens who are going to do what they want to do. If they're convinced that smoking is cool or exciting, or if they want to smoke because they like the idea of being rebellious, why would a poster change their mind? Similarly, if a kid has had a solid upbringing and is already against smoking, the ad is needless for him or her. Distribute ads that promote smoking? ;) Or maybe instead of attacking smoking from legal and health standpoint, just make it look as unattractive and uncool as possible:

“Smoking turns your teeth yellow.”

“You smoke? You stink.”

Personally, I don’t think ads are going to make much difference one way or another with teens who are going to do what they want to do. If they’re convinced that smoking is cool or exciting, or if they want to smoke because they like the idea of being rebellious, why would a poster change their mind? Similarly, if a kid has had a solid upbringing and is already against smoking, the ad is needless for him or her.

]]> By: V. Neelyhttp://armannd.com/the-real-results-of-the-anti-smoking-campaigns.html/comment-page-1/#comment-54093 V. Neely Mon, 30 Jul 2007 00:25:00 +0000 http://www.armannd.com/the-real-results-of-the-anti-smoking-campaigns.html#comment-54093 Distribute ads that promote smoking? ;) Or maybe instead of attacking smoking from legal and health standpoint, just make it look as unattractive and uncool as possible:"Smoking turns your teeth yellow.""You smoke? You stink."Personally, I don't think ads are going to make much difference one way or another with teens who are going to do what they want to do. If they're convinced that smoking is cool or exciting, or if they want to smoke because they like the idea of being rebellious, why would a poster change their mind? Similarly, if a kid has had a solid upbringing and is already against smoking, the ad is needless for him or her. Distribute ads that promote smoking? ;) Or maybe instead of attacking smoking from legal and health standpoint, just make it look as unattractive and uncool as possible:

“Smoking turns your teeth yellow.”

“You smoke? You stink.”

Personally, I don’t think ads are going to make much difference one way or another with teens who are going to do what they want to do. If they’re convinced that smoking is cool or exciting, or if they want to smoke because they like the idea of being rebellious, why would a poster change their mind? Similarly, if a kid has had a solid upbringing and is already against smoking, the ad is needless for him or her.

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